Manuel Cirauqui: There must be a certain spatial configuration, some stability in space that makes you repeat the same movements over and over–
Jimmie Durham: Certainly in the city. Buildings don’t change much. You must stop with the red light; you must walk down the same streets every day. In the forest, something will be different every day, and you have to be careful.
MC: Some time ago I read something you said about the relationship between architecture and belief: the repetitiveness of the urban landscape creates the belief that the world is stable.
JD: Exactly. And it dictates to us—the city tells us how to be; our work in the city tells us how we should be. From every physical and every mental point of view, we are made by our architecture. It’s very strange. We should not agree with it.
MC: Yeah, but architecture is very difficult to counter, or even to attack. It’s not a body scale. See what happens if you try to kick the Arc de Triomphe. 
—BOMB 118, 2012

Manuel Cirauqui: There must be a certain spatial configuration, some stability in space that makes you repeat the same movements over and over–

Jimmie Durham: Certainly in the city. Buildings don’t change much. You must stop with the red light; you must walk down the same streets every day. In the forest, something will be different every day, and you have to be careful.

MC: Some time ago I read something you said about the relationship between architecture and belief: the repetitiveness of the urban landscape creates the belief that the world is stable.

JD: Exactly. And it dictates to us—the city tells us how to be; our work in the city tells us how we should be. From every physical and every mental point of view, we are made by our architecture. It’s very strange. We should not agree with it.

MC: Yeah, but architecture is very difficult to counter, or even to attack. It’s not a body scale. See what happens if you try to kick the Arc de Triomphe. 

BOMB 118, 2012

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