Collaborations are like when you’re in high school and there are all these different types, and maybe you’re the only two or three performance artists, or maybe you’re goth, or into anime, and when you get together, you get excited about sharing this world. I’ve been really lucky to find who I’ve found so far to work with, but there are only two or three people on this planet I have this kind of relationship with. When I met Raúl it was like: This is why I moved to New York—to have this artistic dialogue.

Raúl de Nieves and Colin Self, BOMB 2012

If you have ever wondered what it's like to be in a Yvonne Meier performance...

  • Yvonne Meier: Some audience members would totally resist and not move at all. Some people would fight back. I think the guy from Artforum wrestled with Ishmael. Some people fell over and were buried under the boxes; some people escaped back into the maze. Somebody from the NEA came the first time and he was just dancing in the corner furiously. He was so scared to be touched.
  • Suzanne Snider: He was dancing?
  • Yvonne Meier: Yes, he was dancing to defend himself.
  • Suzanne Snider: I can imagine someone being terrified to be picked up and carried in the dark.